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by **Murray Betts** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 23:40

Does anyone know the truth behind this story?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1770

.....just don't know what to believe these days..........

by **Lisa Balsom** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 02:00

Interesting.

I'd love to know where the £120,000,000 really went. ( Answers on a postcard )

I wonder why practically all people have lost all faith in the Police force?

On a road near to our home, there are 3 speed cameras in 300 mtrs (seriously). Well that's money well spent then :roll:

by **Ian Linden** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 09:05

Lisa Balsom wrote: On a road near to our home, there are 3 speed cameras in 300 mtrs (seriously). Well that's money well spent then

Do you live near a friend of the Chief Constable, who rides a horse?

by **Mark Padley** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:48

Interesting read! I suppose lane swapping is less of a safety risk than stopping under the camera for a couple of minutes until the required time has elapsed!

Also I’ve never been able to suss out how a picture of a car is proof that the vehicle was exceeding the limit, how a mobile camera which works on trigonometry can be sufficiently accurate, how can one camera decide which vehicle is speeding on a three lane carriageway, why can a police car nab you for speeding when they’ve been following for a mile exceeding the limit themselves, why do they put speeding camera signs where there are no speeding cameras, why do people drive at 40 in a 60, how long will it be before GPS driven in-car detector warning devices start going off in areas where there are no cameras, just a black spot and when will in car GPS’s be used to issue fines!

by **Ian Linden** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 13:48

Mark Padley wrote:Also I’ve never been able to suss out how a picture of a car is proof that the vehicle was exceeding the limit

I understand the picture also shows the speed measurement made by radar or laser.

how a mobile camera which works on trigonometry can be sufficiently accurate

I thought they worked by reflection of extremely high frequency radiation, which is very accurate

how can one camera decide which vehicle is speeding on a three lane carriageway

Don't they do it with the marks on the road?

why can a police car nab you for speeding when they’ve been following for a mile exceeding the limit themselves

It is lawful for the police to exceed the speed limit when necessary :twisted:

why do they put speeding camera signs where there are no speeding cameras

It provides a deterrent at low cost :idea:

why do people drive at 40 in a 60

I suppose they are not in a hurry

how long will it be before GPS driven in-car detector warning devices start going off in areas where there are no cameras, just a black spot

Isn't this dependent on the accuracy of the database maintained by the service provider?

and when will in car GPS’s be used to issue fines!

I suppose the answer to that is "When and if they become compulsory". However, I think that would be never, because there are always going to be ways to overcome that - you only need a low power transmitter to jam the frequencies the GPS uses, and it will stop working :wink:

by **Ken Malone** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 15:00

Ian Linden wrote:
Lisa Balsom wrote: On a road near to our home, there are 3 speed cameras in 300 mtrs (seriously). Well that's money well spent then

Do you live near a friend of the Chief Constable, who rides a horse?

or the local Councillor - especially the one who's wife is passionate about road safety and drives a Matiz.

by **Brendan Molony** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 13:19

Ian Linden wrote:
Mark Padley wrote:how long will it be before GPS driven in-car detector warning devices start going off in areas where there are no cameras, just a black spot
Isn't this dependent on the accuracy of the database maintained by the service provider?

These are the areas where mobile cameras have been setup in the past. The information has been provided by either the particular "Safety" Partnership responsible for using that site or individuals, who have driven past the site and "logged" the sighting of a camera whilst passing into their gps detection system and subsequently uploading the information the next time that the unit was plugged into a computer.

by **Alan Percival** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 20:07

If it becomes compulsory for GPS in cars will this reduce insurance costs as they can then be traced???

by **Ian Linden** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 23:11

That can already be done by fitting a Tracker system, but it sounds like it will become compulsory when road pricing is brought in.

Then the GPS could be modified to notify you of the cost of your intended route!

And, in addition to fastest and shortest options, they will have to add cheapest!

by **Dick Winchester** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 09:34

The joke going around up here in Scotland is that in some cases our roads are so bad the Govt will have to pay us to use them!

by **Ken Malone** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 09:35

They could program in the cost of speeding fines and charging zone infringements too and debit your card remotely for the whole trip

- petrol tax
-road usage tax
-emissions tax
-engine size tax
-toll road and bridge toll fees
-speeding & parking fines
-zone entry fees
-anti-low frequency jamming protection fees

And I think to myself.............................. (G Orwell)

by **Dick Winchester** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:08

Hmmm... There is actually an issue on what happens to the data... Will it be sold to Tesco so they can track down those who drive to Morrisons or will it be made available to the CIA so they can check us out?

I'm personally utterly opposed to the whole idea especially as the worst congestion problem we get is when George the farmer decides to run his herd of cows through the village.....(found one in my front garden a few weeks ago acting like a lawnmowe) It's essentially a big city problem and especially a SE of England problem....

I also seriously doubt it will have much of an impact anyway...

by **Ken Malone** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:50

By the time it gets to Aberdeen Duck we'll all have hung up our driving gloves :wink:

by **Dick Winchester** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:06

Duck

Oh I don't know....The Socialist Republic of Edinburgh is talking about it already and the Scottish Executive ( or People's Commissariat as I like to call it) is looking into the idea....

by **Ken Malone** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 14:36

oops... typo - looks good though :lol:

by **Philip Gifford** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 22:58

Nice one Kin that was a real good Quack made me :laughol:

by **Dick Winchester** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 23:16

Don't encourage him Phillip :lol:

by **Ken Malone** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 08:43

Philip Gifford wrote:Nice one Kin that was a real good Quack made me

Hi Pip,
been flying any kites recently :wink:

I hear that Duck Woonchester's been diving again I think

Seriously Dick how's the sponsorship going for your lad for next season?

by **Ken Malone** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 08:54

Excuse the Indian Summer Madness Dick.

Back 'on message' I hear this morning that the Government wants the Highways Agency to identify a stretch of motorway to start charging?

Look out Birmingham!

by **Dick Winchester** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 09:04

You're forgiven...... I'll get my own back later anyway :lol:

Sponsorship - we have only really just begun looking. Now he's secured 2nd place in the Championship and got the Newcomer lap record etc he's got a record we can tout about..

The XR2 group is also looking at finding some overall sponsorship to try to get the series on Motors TV next year... The Scottish Minis were on this year but they're as dull as ditchwater....

Seen his latest video?...... the bit where he gets smacked in the side near the end...

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