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Postby Jacob Dean » Wed Jul 19, 2006 16:09

I've seen one of those sports racers at Christopher Neil and they're beautiful. I'd probably be after a secondhand TVR or Noble for that sort of money though.
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Postby Ken Malone » Wed Jul 19, 2006 16:17

They really are beautiful cars
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Postby Dick Winchester » Thu Jul 20, 2006 15:23

Or.......... Go completely green and get one of these.

http://www.teslamotors.com/
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Postby Ian Linden » Thu Jul 20, 2006 16:00

Marvellous, but, despite:
Final assembly for the Tesla Roadster is at the Lotus factory in the UK.

it says:

We will not sell a Tesla Roadster to anyone outside of the continental US

Grrrrrrrrr :flaming: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Postby Dick Winchester » Thu Jul 20, 2006 16:30

Yes I wondered why that was..... Could be it's a liability issue but is more likely to be a market issue. California is full of wealthy geeks and film stars who will be happy to cough up £50k for a car like this that will reinforce their green credentials.

Within the energy R&D world where I operate there's been rumours about this car for a while. Personally, I wouldn't buy one even if I could afford it. One business trip from Aberdeen to Glasgow and it needs a three hour recharge :cry:
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Postby Ian Linden » Thu Jul 20, 2006 17:38

Dick Winchester wrote:...One business trip from Aberdeen to Glasgow and it needs a three hour recharge :cry:

You must be a fast worker if you can conclude your business in less then three hours :wink:

Here's another to read about:

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/business2/business2_archive/2006/05/01/8375936/index.htm
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Postby Dick Winchester » Thu Jul 20, 2006 17:54

I was down there last week for a one hour meeting !!

I'm not anti electric cars providing people understand their limitations but in my humble opinion the real solution to this whole problem is hydrogen.

These guys are already building H2 engines.....

http://www.hydrogenenginecenter.com/index.htm
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Postby Ian Linden » Thu Jul 20, 2006 20:01

Yes, I remember seeing something about work to develop compact storage - some clever honeycomb inside the cylinder which absorbed hydrogen such that you could get many times the mass into it without increase of pressure. And it would not explode even if pierced by bullets. So what is the delay?
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Postby Lindsey Gray » Fri Jul 21, 2006 07:52

An Elise is on my wish list at the moment and there was a possibility of me getting a salvaged one for about £4k, as payment for some work I did for a friend... fingers crossed, you never know! :lol:

Also, I went for a job at Rolls Royce about 2 weeks which could have been amusing for a company car!!! Sadly didn't get the job though. :cry:
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Postby Ken Malone » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:55

Mark Padley wrote:Impractical - the fact you need a climbing harness to get in


Judge for yourselves .. here

Sounds rather familiar to me as a Cappo owner!! :)
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Postby Jacob Dean » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:59

I'd say it's slightly harder to get in and out of an Elise gracefully because the sill is taller and wider than a Cappuccino's, but you're right Ken, it's effectively the same method :D
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Postby David Regan » Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:03

Mmm. Well, I'm off to my local Lotus showroom.

I can do with some fun...
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Postby Ken Malone » Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:42

David Regan wrote:Mmm. Well, I'm off to my local Lotus showroom.

I can do with some fun...


of course for those of us strapped for cash right now there's always the Caterham/Lotus Se-v-en/kitcar route!!
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Postby Daisy Hewitt » Sun Jul 23, 2006 23:43

hmmm how about a Locust 7 then ?
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Postby Dick Winchester » Sun Jul 23, 2006 23:56

Ian Linden wrote:Yes, I remember seeing something about work to develop compact storage - some clever honeycomb inside the cylinder which absorbed hydrogen such that you could get many times the mass into it without increase of pressure. And it would not explode even if pierced by bullets. So what is the delay?



This is Britain Ian :cry:
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Postby Ian Linden » Mon Jul 24, 2006 09:47

Dick Winchester wrote:
Ian Linden wrote:Yes, I remember seeing something about work to develop compact storage - some clever honeycomb inside the cylinder which absorbed hydrogen such that you could get many times the mass into it without increase of pressure. And it would not explode even if pierced by bullets. So what is the delay?

This is Britain Ian :cry:


Uh, uh. This work was in the US. I guess it must be the conspiracy by the oil companies..... :twisted:
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Postby Dick Winchester » Mon Jul 24, 2006 09:52

Well possibly because the oil companies are certainly moving to try to control the next energy era as well as this one but I think it's more to do with a lack of vison on behalf of the Govt and the lack of availability of risk equity capital. In the USA ideas find backing on good terms much more easily due to their pioneering/enterprise spirit. Here it's simply a lot more difficult.
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